Games you love that everyone else hates

[Crash Dummie]

Title says it all. Are there any games that are considered to be awful by the majority of people that you enjoy anyway? If so, why? Stories of personal bias are always interesting. I'll start.




Friday the 13th (NES)

This probably comes as no surprise to anyone. Jason is my favorite horror character despite my better judgement, and I based my avatar on the sprites from the video game.

Everyone shits on this game. AVGN ripped it 10 new assholes in one of his early reviews. People complain about how hard it is to kill Jason, the fact that he's been colored purple, the confusing map, the slow camp counselors, the "Jason Alarm", the rock that flies into an arc over the head of the enemies.

I say bullshit, these guys never took the time to learn how to play the game. Sure, any well designed game should be easy to learn (yet tough to master), and I'm not claiming Friday the 13th is without any flaws. It WAS an LJN game after all, and most likely a quick cash in, but there are some brilliant ideas in the not so perfect execution.

The only choice they made I won't defend is Jason's color. It looks off, and they probably only did it because it's a children's game, and a rotting zombie would have turned them off. Well, why make a game bout a murderer then? Just color him like he should be. I did it.

Let's talk about the counselors. Many people complain that only two of them, Mark and Chrissy, are useful. While that's true, I see it as an accurate portrayal of the movies. Mark and Chrissy would likely be the leading, surviving couple, and the other ones the stupid, out of shape counsellors who get slaughtered by Jason.

When you get in the cabins (which are easy to naviguate, unlike most people claim) however, every counselor fight the same, so they're on equal grounds when they're inside, and that's where you'll spend most of your time fighting Jason. Just make sure you kill a few Zombies with everyone, in front of a cabin so you can retreat, until they have a knife of machete, which are miles better than the rocks,and you're good to go.

But what if the Jason alarm rings, and you have to save a counsellor who's far away while you're controlling a slow character? Most people don't know this; you enter any small cabin (should take 10 seconds at most), push start, and select the character who's being attacked to directly fight Jason.

Jason isn't so hard by the way, like every Punch-Out!! bad guy, you just have to learn his pattern, dodge well and counter-attack.

The map makes perfect sense.



When you're in the bottom part, you push right, you go right. Notice how it curves and the pathway is essentially a big circle? That's why your character goes left when you push right at the top of the map, stop complaining.

There are also a mulitude of secret areas and weapons to find. They're high risk/high reward, and completely optional. You can naviguate the woods, though it's easy to get lost/killed, and hope to find Jason's house and a powerful weapon inside. You don't have to do it, and it's supposed to be hard, yet people bitch about it.

You can also go in the caves, and find the shrine where Pamela Voorhees' head lies. Yeah, it comes to life, flies around and is hard to kill, but you get special weapons and armor from her. Who cares if her head wasn't alive in the films, it's a video game.

And last but not least, it's one of the few NES games that have a sense of genuine tension. Jason can be anywhere in the map, stalking you, and you never see him until he's right up your face. You know what other game did it? Slender, and everyone was spooked by it.

If it sounds like I'm saying that it's the greatest game ever, believe me, I'm not. The game is repetitive, unbalanced, sometimes clunky and a lot more could have been done with it, but taken for what is is, I'll say it's a very interresting, and partially successful early attempt in the survival horror genre.

[Dorkus]

I quite like Friday the 13th, I just never know what I'm doing.

My answer for this is always obscure PS2 game Oni. Made by the same people that make the Halo games. I don't like the Halo games, I did like this.

I'm sorry if I reply to these topics very quickly...I'm a little excited this board is back still. 

[Crash Dummie]

Its reviews seem to be mostly pretty decent however. I understand the content didn't deliver on the promises made by the company?

[JasonzSon]

Final Fantasy X-2

Oh, it's ridiculous.  There are parts of it that make absolutely no sense.  They try to be sexy and fail.  The main villain is ridiculous.  The magic of this universe completely clashes with that of the original game.

Still, I call this a guilty pleasure.  I played this before the original, I believe because it was cheaper at the time (no shit).  It was fun exploring the world, and even now it's fun seeing how the world changes between games.  I enjoyed leveling each character up in multiple class, seeing the creative design between combining each character class and character, and at times I enjoy the skimpy outfits in ways that people who call this a "dress-up" game just don't think about.  If nothing else, this game moves more quickly than any Final Fantasy game I've ever seen, which makes up for many of the more foolish decisions they made by not lingering on them long or even returning to some of them.  I don't know if I'd recommend it, but I wouldn't shy away from playing it.

[Crash Dummie]

The recent Final Fantasy games seem to take an essentially fun combat/leveling system, and putting it in the middle of a shit storm of stuff I hate with all my guts.

[Giddins]

the katamari games. fuck i love those games.

also duke nukem forever. wasn't as good as it should of been. and the did things in it that i think they shouldn't have. like 2 weapon limit and the monster truck bit. but i don't think it was as bad as everyone makes it out to be.

[Shadow]

the katamari games. fuck i love those games.

I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything bad about Katamari.

As for myself... honestly, I can't think of anything. I'm sure I've played more than my fair share... I'm just drawing blanks. Maybe I'll think of something later.

[JasonzSon]

The recent Final Fantasy games seem to take an essentially fun combat/leveling system, and putting it in the middle of a shit storm of stuff I hate with all my guts.

That might be the reason why I've barely made any progress in XII.

[Jigsaw]

There's probably something, but at this moment, nothing is coming to mind. I only play PlayStation 2 games anyway, and everything on that system is golden, so probably nothing. :p

[JasonzSon]

Final Fantasy X-2 is on PS2.

[Jigsaw]

Final Fantasy X-2 is on PS2.

It's X-2 - it has to be good.

I wouldn't know - I don't know a thing about the Final Fantasy series.

[Giddins]

I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything bad about Katamari.

i play it around my friends and they just say "what the fuck is that?"

[L-Face]

Final Fantasy X-2 is on PS2.

It's X-2 - it has to be good.

I wouldn't know - I don't know a thing about the Final Fantasy series.

Walk around, random fight. Stupid world destroying plot. Rinse, wash, repeat.

[Jigsaw]

I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything bad about Katamari.

i play it around my friends and they just say "what the fuck is that?"

Get new friends.

[Jigsaw]

Final Fantasy X-2 is on PS2.

It's X-2 - it has to be good.

I wouldn't know - I don't know a thing about the Final Fantasy series.

Walk around, random fight. Stupid world destroying plot. Rinse, wash, repeat.

Seems to be something more, as it's so popular, but that summary works with me.