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Title: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Reign in Blood on February 04, 2013, 06:23:56 PM
Rating so far: 7.333 (3 votes so far)
                                            ~~added by JasonzSon~~


What do you think?

Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvDLWlxxcak (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvDLWlxxcak)

As much as I hate the idea of Hollywood capitalizing on a name, and they should just take this approach with at least a semi-original idea, I think it's shaping up to look pretty bad ass. It won't live up to the original series, but further confirmation from the director that he's using practical effects and less CGI as possible etc. leaves me hopeful that this can at least rock, if not have the roll.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Chucky on February 04, 2013, 08:03:08 PM
Yeah, I agree... it's shaping up to be no holds-barred and still looks to have a lot of the goofy moments without being overly silly about it. It is JUST a trailer but definitely looks like a good step in the right direction.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: L-Face on February 04, 2013, 08:16:55 PM
I was pretty iffy about this one until I actually saw the red band trailer. Looks pretty sick. Read that the director was shooting for an NC-17 Rating just so he knew he was going in the right direction. With some slight trims it's a Hard R bordering on the NC-17, so there's that. As for Hollywood capitalizing on the name? Well, it is produced by Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell and Raimi hand picked the director to remake this. It at least has that going for it.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Jigsaw on February 04, 2013, 10:26:12 PM
I admit, I'm pretty hard-nosed against remakes, but also I never really loved The Evil Dead (haven't seen it in a long while, though).

That said, after seeing a trailer, I was rather impressed. Of course, I won't be seeing this in theaters, but I don't think I'll go on an anti-horror movie remake tirade if I happen to see it someday.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Crash Dummie on February 04, 2013, 11:43:23 PM
I'm stoked about this one. Especially if it's a pseudo sequel. There's nothing that would prevent another group of fucktards to go in the cabin and wake up the demons again.

If it's anything like the trailer promises, we're in for a fun ride.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: L-Face on February 04, 2013, 11:45:06 PM
I'm stoked about this one. Especially if it's a pseudo sequel. There's nothing that would prevent another group of fucktards to go in the cabin and wake up the demons again.

If it's anything like the trailer promises, we're in for a fun ride.
Definitely. Though, I don't know about it being a pseudo sequel. I think the car is just a nod to Raimi more than anything. Mostly because at the end of Evil Dead 2 *Spoilers* the car ends up with Ash when he travels back in time.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Crash Dummie on February 04, 2013, 11:48:38 PM
Evil Dead 2 was a sequel/condensed remake. The continuity is loose enough already that I think it might just work if they take a similar approach, only 30-something years later.

As for the car, yeah, it's just a nod. Is there a single Raimi film where we don't see the Oldsmobile and Campbell?
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: L-Face on February 04, 2013, 11:51:35 PM
Evil Dead 2 was a sequel/condensed remake. The continuity is loose enough already that I think it might just work if they take a similar approach, only 30-something years later.

As for the car, yeah, it's just a nod. Is there a single Raimi film where we don't see the Oldsmobile and Campbell?
Actually, 2 is a sequel. The reason for the beginning was because at the time, Raimi couldn't get the rights to use footage from the first Evil Dead. Been watching some Q&A panels with Bruce Campbell and he explained why the opening to 2 was the way it was.

Not that I'm against this being a pseudo sequel of sorts, think that'd be an interesting twist of sorts.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: JasonzSon on February 05, 2013, 01:02:05 AM
I think it would take some effort to get me to care about this movie.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: L-Face on February 05, 2013, 01:03:11 AM
I think it would take some effort to get me to care about this movie.
Isn't that the case for just about any movie ever?  [*odd*]
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Jigsaw on February 05, 2013, 01:03:28 AM
What are your qualms with it, Jasonz?
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: JasonzSon on February 05, 2013, 01:06:39 AM
What are your qualms with it, Jasonz?
Enough remakes that it can't get my attention for that.
Evil Dead is not something that I found entertaining outside of the horror aspect (in other words, the humor side did virtually nothing for me).
Does the trailer look like an Evil Dead movie or a Platinum Dunes movie?
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: L-Face on February 05, 2013, 01:07:32 AM
What are your qualms with it, Jasonz?
Enough remakes that it can't get my attention for that.
Evil Dead is not something that I found entertaining outside of the horror aspect (in other words, the humor side did virtually nothing for me).
Does the trailer look like an Evil Dead movie or a Platinum Dunes movie?
Looks like an Evil Dead movie to me.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: JasonzSon on February 05, 2013, 01:08:56 AM
Then it might have some hope.  Most remakes haven't gotten that part down yet.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Jigsaw on February 05, 2013, 01:09:03 AM
What are your qualms with it, Jasonz?
Enough remakes that it can't get my attention for that.
Evil Dead is not something that I found entertaining outside of the horror aspect (in other words, the humor side did virtually nothing for me).
Does the trailer look like an Evil Dead movie or a Platinum Dunes movie?

I'm sure I hate remakes more than you, but aside from that, I can see your point.

And to address your question, I'm not sure, as off the top of my head, I can't recite other movies done by Platinum Dunes.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: L-Face on February 05, 2013, 01:10:58 AM
What are your qualms with it, Jasonz?
Enough remakes that it can't get my attention for that.
Evil Dead is not something that I found entertaining outside of the horror aspect (in other words, the humor side did virtually nothing for me).
Does the trailer look like an Evil Dead movie or a Platinum Dunes movie?

I'm sure I hate remakes more than you, but aside from that, I can see your point.

And to address your question, I'm not sure, as off the top of my head, I can't recite other movies done by Platinum Dunes.
If it's a remake of a New Line film, then it's likely a Platinum Dunes film.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Jigsaw on February 05, 2013, 01:12:07 AM
What are your qualms with it, Jasonz?
Enough remakes that it can't get my attention for that.
Evil Dead is not something that I found entertaining outside of the horror aspect (in other words, the humor side did virtually nothing for me).
Does the trailer look like an Evil Dead movie or a Platinum Dunes movie?

I'm sure I hate remakes more than you, but aside from that, I can see your point.

And to address your question, I'm not sure, as off the top of my head, I can't recite other movies done by Platinum Dunes.
If it's a remake of a New Line film, then it's likely a Platinum Dunes film.

A Nightmare on Elm Street (2010), then?

God, talk about bad films...
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: L-Face on February 05, 2013, 01:13:01 AM
What are your qualms with it, Jasonz?
Enough remakes that it can't get my attention for that.
Evil Dead is not something that I found entertaining outside of the horror aspect (in other words, the humor side did virtually nothing for me).
Does the trailer look like an Evil Dead movie or a Platinum Dunes movie?

I'm sure I hate remakes more than you, but aside from that, I can see your point.

And to address your question, I'm not sure, as off the top of my head, I can't recite other movies done by Platinum Dunes.
If it's a remake of a New Line film, then it's likely a Platinum Dunes film.

A Nightmare on Elm Street (2010), then?

God, talk about bad films...
I wanted to hate the Elm Street remake, but couldn't. That's not saying it's a good film by any stretch of the imagination. But it's not really terrible either. It's just......there.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Jigsaw on February 05, 2013, 01:13:57 AM
True, it's not atrocious. Just extremely bland.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: JasonzSon on February 05, 2013, 01:14:19 AM
If you hate remakes, odds are they get your attention and you watch them in order to hate them.  Personally, last remake I've watched from the past decade was Halloween.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: L-Face on February 05, 2013, 01:15:31 AM
If you hate remakes, odds are they get your attention and you watch them in order to hate them.  Personally, last remake I've watched from the past decade was Halloween.
Thing with this Evil Dead remake is, it actually looks enjoyable.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Jigsaw on February 05, 2013, 01:17:09 AM
If you hate remakes, odds are they get your attention and you watch them in order to hate them.  Personally, last remake I've watched from the past decade was Halloween.

Not always true, though I admit, in some cases, I know pretty well I won't enjoy them (case in point: My Bloody Valentine remake).

The Friday the 13th remake was pretty decent (not amazing, but okay), though. Of course, it didn't really feel like a remake, so that's probably why.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: L-Face on February 05, 2013, 01:18:18 AM
If you hate remakes, odds are they get your attention and you watch them in order to hate them.  Personally, last remake I've watched from the past decade was Halloween.
The Friday the 13th remake was pretty decent (not amazing, but okay), though. Of course, it didn't really feel like a remake, so that's probably why.
Didn't really feel like a Friday the 13th film either.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Jigsaw on February 05, 2013, 01:19:05 AM
If you hate remakes, odds are they get your attention and you watch them in order to hate them.  Personally, last remake I've watched from the past decade was Halloween.
The Friday the 13th remake was pretty decent (not amazing, but okay), though. Of course, it didn't really feel like a remake, so that's probably why.
Didn't really feel like a Friday the 13th film either.

What were your main issues with it?

I have my qualms, of course, but overall, I found it passable.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: L-Face on February 05, 2013, 01:21:10 AM
Same issues I had with the Elm Street remake. Wasn't good, wasn't bad. It exists, but is ultimately forgettable. It didn't do anything to make itself stand out, which works against it. It could have easily had a different title and it would have been your run of the mill slasher flick.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Crash Dummie on February 05, 2013, 01:25:17 AM
The only really good part about it was when Nancy(?) was slipping in and out of sleep in what I think was a grocery store alley. The CGI was justified and well done, unlike the part where Freddy comes out the bedroom's wall, where it looked better 30 years ago when they did it with a BLANKET.

I liked the Friday remake better. It was probably just as bland and forgetable, but the Friday films have such a low standard that it looked better in comparison. Lots of missed opportunities for the kills however. There was one part in a garage where they teased a lot of weapons (even hockey stick I think), and none of them where I used. I forgot how the guy died.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Jigsaw on February 05, 2013, 01:26:31 AM
There was one part in a garage where they teased a lot of weapons (even hockey stick I think), and none of them where I used. I forgot how the guy died.

The makers of the film would probably argue it just adds suspense.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Crash Dummie on February 05, 2013, 01:29:03 AM
They would, and it DID add suspense, but the payoff sucked.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: DrumrbaxJ on February 05, 2013, 03:05:41 AM
Wasn't it the wood chipper?

And I have actually thoroughly enjoyed the remakes. Though I did lol with Jensen Ackles/Dean being in the Bloody Valentine remake and Jared Padalecki/Sam being in the Friday remake. Poor bastards have been typecast something chronic.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Shadow on February 05, 2013, 03:43:43 AM
As someone who didn't particularly like the original (bring the hate), I'm looking forward to this one, actually. Since it  has a budget and seemingly decent actors this time, I think it'll have a chance.

And before someone comes at me with a knife, I do agree wholeheartedly that Bruce was the best thing to come out of the original.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: L-Face on February 05, 2013, 03:45:13 AM
As someone who didn't particularly like the original (bring the hate), I'm looking forward to this one, actually. Since it  has a budget and seemingly decent actors this time, I think it'll have a chance.

And before someone comes at me with a knife, I do agree wholeheartedly that Bruce was the best thing to come out of the original.
Well, that and the tree rape.  [*deal*]
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Crash Dummie on February 05, 2013, 03:46:28 AM
The original had its budget and amateur actors related flaws, but one thing I think has genuinely aged very well about it is the creepyniess of the posessed teens. When Ash is the only one still normal in the cabin and eveyone else is going apeshit still really gives an air of uneasiness.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Shadow on February 05, 2013, 04:01:47 AM
Well, that and the tree rape.  [*deal*]

I was impressed by the concept, but not how it actually turned out. The tree rape scene in the remake (just based off of the trailer alone) is going to make the original tree want to throw itself in a wood chipper.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Reign in Blood on February 05, 2013, 05:06:43 AM
I was pretty iffy about this one until I actually saw the red band trailer. Looks pretty sick. Read that the director was shooting for an NC-17 Rating just so he knew he was going in the right direction. With some slight trims it's a Hard R bordering on the NC-17, so there's that. As for Hollywood capitalizing on the name? Well, it is produced by Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell and Raimi hand picked the director to remake this. It at least has that going for it.

It actually being produced by Raimi is one of the things that had me reserved from the get-go. I haven't cared for most of the PG-13 shit flicks he has produced lately.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Jigsaw on February 05, 2013, 05:15:49 AM
I was pretty iffy about this one until I actually saw the red band trailer. Looks pretty sick. Read that the director was shooting for an NC-17 Rating just so he knew he was going in the right direction. With some slight trims it's a Hard R bordering on the NC-17, so there's that. As for Hollywood capitalizing on the name? Well, it is produced by Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell and Raimi hand picked the director to remake this. It at least has that going for it.

It actually being produced by Raimi is one of the things that had me reserved from the get-go. I haven't cared for most of the PG-13 shit flicks he has produced lately.

Indeed, Drag Me to Hell was absolutely horrendous (and I stand by this, even if I'm in the minority).
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: L-Face on February 05, 2013, 05:40:09 AM
I was pretty iffy about this one until I actually saw the red band trailer. Looks pretty sick. Read that the director was shooting for an NC-17 Rating just so he knew he was going in the right direction. With some slight trims it's a Hard R bordering on the NC-17, so there's that. As for Hollywood capitalizing on the name? Well, it is produced by Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell and Raimi hand picked the director to remake this. It at least has that going for it.

It actually being produced by Raimi is one of the things that had me reserved from the get-go. I haven't cared for most of the PG-13 shit flicks he has produced lately.
Considering Bruce Campbell has gone to bat for this hardcore, that put me at ease a bit. Especially since he's brutally honest about a lot of what he's done.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: gorefan1428 on February 05, 2013, 04:03:04 PM
I'm not a remake guy but must admit this looks like it could be good.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: JasonzSon on April 08, 2013, 09:14:43 AM
I'm working on a review of this now.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Shadow on April 08, 2013, 12:22:43 PM
Indeed, Drag Me to Hell was absolutely horrendous (and I stand by this, even if I'm in the minority).

It was shit.

In other news I should be seeing this movie on Tuesday. Here's hoping I enjoy it.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: JasonzSon on April 08, 2013, 05:45:18 PM
My review (http://sqt-fantasy-sci-fi-girl.blogspot.com/2013/04/in-theatres-evil-dead-nsfw.html) of it is here.

Short version: start 30 minutes in.

Long version: First 30 minutes like a Rob Zombie film, last hour is pretty good, decently scary, great makeup, plenty of gore, surprising ending.

Longer version: Click the link, you lazy bastard.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Shadow on April 10, 2013, 02:40:34 PM
Well, I just finished watching it about a half hour ago. It was... different. Good in some ways... nearly all ways, I'd say, but fails in certain parts that most modern day horror movies fail in.

As far as the plot goes, it was pretty solid. The acting was pretty good... certainly ran circles around the original. However, my biggest thing with it was that it had far too many jump scares and clich├ęs. Overall I would say it did good, as far as remakes go.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Chucky on April 12, 2013, 05:54:46 PM
I really don't understand why people hate on jump scares just because they're "jump scares". No avant-garde shit h'yar.

Sure, if a movie is riddled with them and they're all poorly ineffective, then I can understand. It seems to be one of those complaints that are piggy-backing off the whole remake hate, it's just a default reaction now. It has jump scares? LAME!! (sarcasm [*hibaby*]) I'd still rather watch an entertaining remake than an original idea that is poorly done.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: JasonzSon on April 13, 2013, 01:51:35 AM
Both Woman in Black and Evil Dead are being accused of having a lot of jump scares, and I think they're both genuinely scary movies.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Shadow on April 13, 2013, 11:56:17 AM
I really don't understand why people hate on jump scares just because they're "jump scares". No avant-garde shit h'yar.

Sure, if a movie is riddled with them and they're all poorly ineffective, then I can understand. It seems to be one of those complaints that are piggy-backing off the whole remake hate, it's just a default reaction now. It has jump scares? LAME!! (sarcasm [*hibaby*]) I'd still rather watch an entertaining remake than an original idea that is poorly done.

I don't mind jump scares at all, as long as they're done well and not overused. This one had a few good ones, in fact, but after a while I got tired of it.
 
As for Woman in Black... I've yet to see that one. I haven't really heard any bad things (not much at all, really), though, so I suppose that's a good thing.   
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Crash Dummie on April 14, 2013, 06:26:48 AM
Woman in Black really had too many jump scares. You fully expect them after a while.

But it was okay, and it did have a really creepy atmosphere.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: JasonzSon on April 14, 2013, 08:56:36 AM
I didn't see it as expecting something - of course you expect something surprising in a haunted house.  But what it is, and how the hell to escape it, are the surprises and the source of the terror.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Crash Dummie on April 14, 2013, 11:31:00 AM
It didn't help that I couldn't shake off the feeling that I was watching Harry Potter.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: JasonzSon on April 14, 2013, 12:15:45 PM
That would do it.

More on topic, looking over my old Evil Dead review, I had an epiphany: take the first half of the Raimi movie and the second half of this movie and you'd have my ideal Evil Dead.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Shadow on April 15, 2013, 11:24:15 AM
It didn't help that I couldn't shake off the feeling that I was watching Harry Potter.
I had always figured that this would be the curse of those three... they got so popular off of one specific series and they're going to be stuck living with it for the rest of their lives whether they like it or not.

That would do it.

More on topic, looking over my old Evil Dead review, I had an epiphany: take the first half of the Raimi movie and the second half of this movie and you'd have my ideal Evil Dead.

Spoilers: Ash getting a sex change?  [*browwink*]
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: JasonzSon on April 15, 2013, 03:30:55 PM
Quote
I had always figured that this would be the curse of those three... they got so popular off of one specific series and they're going to be stuck living with it for the rest of their lives whether they like it or not.
One of them will get a career voice acting a popular villain, the other will become the highest paid actor alive, and the other will fade into obscurity.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Dorkus on April 20, 2013, 10:42:27 AM
I really don't understand why people hate on jump scares just because they're "jump scares". No avant-garde shit h'yar.

Sure, if a movie is riddled with them and they're all poorly ineffective, then I can understand. It seems to be one of those complaints that are piggy-backing off the whole remake hate, it's just a default reaction now. It has jump scares? LAME!! (sarcasm [*hibaby*]) I'd still rather watch an entertaining remake than an original idea that is poorly done.

For me, it's the lack of effort behind them.

I could sneak up behind you and fire a gun, you'd be scared but only because I was a jackass making a loud noise. There's nothing psychological about it, you soon get over it, it doesn't stick with you at all.

There are some jump scares that are iconic, but more because of the imagery than the fact that there was a loud noise. The severed head scene in Jaws, for example.

The NOES remake is a key example of a movie that has no idea what the fuck it's doing so just becomes the equavialent of some jackass yelling "boo" every 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: DeraiLer on April 25, 2013, 08:17:48 AM
This movie took awhile to get going but once it did we got hit with one holy fuck moment after another. Also, the lack of CGI made for some realistic gore which was very well done. The scene after the credits though didn't give me anything much to anticipate though. It was a letdown.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Shadow on April 25, 2013, 10:10:28 AM
The scene after the credits though didn't give me anything much to anticipate though. It was a letdown.

Yep. It gave me kind of a chuckle for the same reason.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: JasonzSon on April 25, 2013, 04:08:13 PM
Once I heard what it was, I didn't feel bad about missing it.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: L-Face on May 04, 2013, 09:41:43 PM
Finally got around to seeing this. Thought it was pretty good. Not great, but still enjoyable. The beginning is a little slow, but does a decent job of setting things up before the shit hits the fan. I've heard complaints about the characters being bland/not memorable, but I actually thought that was a pretty good change of pace from the cliches that usually follow the horror genre. As for the end credits scene, I marked out. Not going to lie. It was short, but so over the top that it's awesome.

Overall, I'd like to say this is one of the better remakes. Though, I'll hold off on saying that until I see it a few more times to see if it holds up.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Crash Dummie on May 16, 2013, 07:45:58 AM
I loved it. It worked as a remake, and as a sequel of sorts. It could very well be the same cabin, 30 years later.

Though I would have to wonder why the chainsaw found its way back there, but maybe it's a different one.

I don't know if it's me getting softer or if the movie was really disgusting, but I felt a little queasy after some of the gory parts. The ending sequence was fucking awesome.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: JasonzSon on May 16, 2013, 12:38:07 PM
Some of the gore bits were particularly realistic, and the exact sort of stuff that's likely to get me squeamish.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: L-Face on May 17, 2013, 01:59:14 AM
Maybe I've been desensitized, but the gore really didn't get to me at all.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Crash Dummie on May 17, 2013, 03:30:35 AM
Light spoilers ahead:

The bits where the dude takes the needle out of his eye-socket, and later on the huge ass mirror shard out of his shoulder were when started feeling uneasy.

Then the girl's arm falling off the one string string of flesh holding it was when I was definitely not feeling all that good.

I don't know. I drank a lot of sangria before going to the movie, and I've been watching a youtube channel called "embarassing illnesses", where British doctors frequently show and treat disgusting stuff. I guess it all got mixed together in me at that moment.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: JasonzSon on May 21, 2013, 02:47:26 PM
Those of you who've seen this, want to put in a rating and I'll do a Movie Club style tally?

I'm thinking 7.5.  The characters and the opening drag it down too much to give it an 8 in good faith.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Crash Dummie on May 22, 2013, 12:02:43 AM
I'd give it a CRASH LOVES.

My two other ratings are CRASH LIKES and CRASH SMASH.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: JasonzSon on May 22, 2013, 04:57:17 AM
What's that out of 10?
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Crash Dummie on May 22, 2013, 05:35:14 AM
I could love a movie that deserves a 0/10, like The Room.

But if we're gonna go with the numbers system, Evil Dead is a good 7.5 or 8, like you said.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: JasonzSon on May 22, 2013, 05:51:23 AM
If you love it, it's not a 0/10 for you.  There's a reason I gave Troll 2 a decent score, for instance.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Doomed Knight on May 22, 2013, 06:05:54 AM
SPOON!!!!

I still haven't seen the the movie, but if it is good I'll watch it for sure
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Chucky on May 22, 2013, 03:45:35 PM
Watched the Evil Dead remake today, it was decent but a victim of its own hype. I'm think maybe a 7/10 but possibly over time once the hype is no longer affecting repeat viewings, I would probably lean closer to an 8.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Jigsaw on March 10, 2021, 03:40:29 AM
If you love it, it's not a 0/10 for you.  There's a reason I gave Troll 2 a decent score, for instance.

That's my issue with Birdemic - it's God-awful, and feels like it should deserve as low a score as is commonly given, but at the same time, there is a decent element of enjoyment that comes with it.

It's a hard road that we walk, which is why others may crawl.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Jason on June 15, 2022, 10:20:00 AM
I really don't understand why people hate on jump scares just because they're "jump scares". No avant-garde shit h'yar.

Sure, if a movie is riddled with them and they're all poorly ineffective, then I can understand. It seems to be one of those complaints that are piggy-backing off the whole remake hate, it's just a default reaction now. It has jump scares? LAME!! (sarcasm [*hibaby*]) I'd still rather watch an entertaining remake than an original idea that is poorly done.

Most modern jump scares are totally lazy in their approach and it tends to speak volumes about the effort that was put in to the movie as a whole. There was an epidemic of God-awful jump scares around the time of the Paranormal Activity phenomenon. As the franchise progressed it became more and more about generating a cheap jump scare rather than executing a well written movie. It's almost as if a lot of the horror flicks around this time were made for the soul purpose of the jump scare and you can see the correlation between how shitty the movie is and how shitty the jump scares are in the movie.

I'll take two movies from the mid 2010s and use them as examples. It Follows (2014) and The Visit (2015). The Visit was yet another found footage flick that fell flat and relied heavily on cheap jump scares to get any sort of reaction. The main jump scare I'm going to refer to is in the middle of the night when Grandma has been acting strange and they set up a camera to record her actions. It's the middle of the night, she's already acting creepy and you know the jump scare is about to come. The jump scare has already failed before it ever occurred. What makes it a failed jump scare? We already know it is coming based on the way the entire scene is set up, the absolute silliness in the way that the jump scare actually occurs and the over the top loud growl/scream that was clearly set up by a suddenly quiet atmosphere. The Visit should be shown to any and all aspiring horror directors in how not to implement a jump scare. Now let's look at It Follows.

It Follows was a remarkably unique and well written film for its time and serves as a great example of how a jump scare should be. There's a scene early on in the film before anything weird really starts to happen. Other than the gripping opening scene that immediately draws the viewer in, the movie has overall been mostly dialogue with minimal noise and music. The main character is in the bathroom in front of a mirror fiddling with the wasteband of her underwear when suddenly a red ball hits the window in the corner of the screen. What makes this a great jump scare? The audience is completely relaxed and unsuspecting, and there wasn't a thunderous boom or loud music implemented to embellish it. It was simply a ball hitting a window and the reason its so necessary and effective is because it sets the tone for the discomfort of the viewer throughout the movie. We let our guard down and were completely blind sided by something so trivial. It keeps the audience on edge for the entirety of the movie. This is what makes a jump scare work.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Jigsaw on June 17, 2022, 02:48:45 AM
I enjoyed The Visit enough, but I do agree that It Follows does it better.
Title: Re: Evil Dead Remake
Post by: Chucky on June 17, 2022, 02:54:30 AM
I'm glad to see that something I posted back in 2013 is still getting some action.  [*browwink*]

I agree with what was said there, Jason, I think I watched The Visit when it hit home video but it's been completely forgettable for me. As for It Follows, yes, that is a good one. I saw it in a small theatre back when it came out, as it did not get a wide release here in Australia, and I remember sitting through quite a few hair raising moments, I still remember that cinema experience even to this very day.

Btw, where did you pop out from? [*odd*]