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Title: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: JasonzSon on February 05, 2013, 03:31:37 PM
Seeing as how JJ Abrams is helming both the new Star Wars and the new Star Trek films, I thought they might as well get one shared thread to see what people have to say about them.

I have one opinion on both: Meh, but I'll probably watch them.  The only Abrams project I've experienced so far was a mediocre Star Trek film, and I have a feeling he's going to push the same soul-less generic Sci-Fi on us two more times with these films.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: DrumrbaxJ on February 05, 2013, 03:33:53 PM
I'm being hopeful.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: Shadow on February 05, 2013, 03:41:11 PM
Can't be worse than Episode I. I'm trying to remain hopeful too... though I don't know how they're going to start off this whole new trilogy.

As for Star Trek, I liked it more than I thought I would, so I'll give this next one a chance.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: DrumrbaxJ on February 05, 2013, 05:01:46 PM
Agreed on both points. And I think the most sense would be Han and Leia's children. They have a pretty epic story in the books.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: L-Face on February 06, 2013, 12:18:30 AM
Honestly not a Star Trek fan, but I enjoyed JJ's take on the franchise quite a bit.

As for him taking the helm of the Star Wars films, I too remain hopeful. The prequel trilogy was an abomination, thankfully Lucas won't be anywhere near these films (to my knowledge, at least.) I'm interested to see how things turn out with Hamill, Fischer, and Ford returning.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: DrumrbaxJ on February 06, 2013, 12:25:35 AM
Are they returning?
And he's a creative offsider. His official title is more interesting, but that's essentially the crux of it.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: L-Face on February 06, 2013, 12:33:53 AM
I read that they would, but they wouldn't be the focus of the new films. Maybe cameos or brief appearances to help establish the new "heroes" of the new trilogy.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: Crash Dummie on February 06, 2013, 12:39:10 AM
I liked the new Star Trek, and while my love for Star Wars diminishes as time passes (I'll always love the three originals and a few of the games, but the rest? Eh.), I'm excited about seeing a GOOD movie from this franchise again.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: L-Face on February 06, 2013, 12:41:24 AM
It's funny. For as bad as the prequel trilogy is, they help me appreciate the original trilogy a lot more. Hell, they make me appreciate Return of the Jedi and I really don't like that movie.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: Crash Dummie on February 06, 2013, 12:46:12 AM
I watched the first one recently (episode 4).

It was good, but it also struck me as the most uneventful of the original trilogy. Return had a lot of stupid parts, but in some ways, it's my favorite because of the kick ass action.

But objectively, episode 5 really is the best one.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: DrumrbaxJ on February 06, 2013, 12:47:11 AM
Dude. A New Hope is a big deal. They blow up the first Death Star, for christ sakes. No action? Bollocks to that.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: Crash Dummie on February 06, 2013, 12:47:54 AM
I didn't say nothing at all happened.  [*laugh*]

I still like it.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: JasonzSon on February 06, 2013, 04:28:46 AM
A New Hope is my least favorite of the original trilogy.  A lot of time spent sitting around.

I still wish they had let Joss Whedon do this film.  He definitely was on the right track with the premise- the Yuuzhan Vong invasion- and his strengths and weaknesses are absolutely perfect for Star Wars- and, while we're on topic, I could see him doing a decent job on Trek as well.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: L-Face on February 06, 2013, 04:34:40 AM
I'd prefer Joss Whedon go away and leave everything alone.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: JasonzSon on February 06, 2013, 04:36:34 AM
I'd take a sequel to Serenity or Avengers over most of the Sci-Fi films made in the past decade.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: Shadow on February 06, 2013, 05:21:54 AM
My only problem with Whedon is that for some reason towards the end of everything he's ever made he just starts randomly putting people to the chopping block for no reason. Other than that I have no real issues with him.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: L-Face on February 06, 2013, 05:25:12 AM
I'd take a sequel to Serenity or Avengers over most of the Sci-Fi films made in the past decade.
There's a reason Firefly got cancelled (it sucked balls.) As for Avengers, it was a decent comedy film. Nothing more.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: JasonzSon on February 06, 2013, 05:30:47 AM
Actually, Firefly was canceled because it wasn't promoted and was aired in random order so that it made absolutely no sense if you watched it on TV.  Once it hit DVD it got extremely popular.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: L-Face on February 06, 2013, 05:31:55 AM
And it sucked balls.  [*deal*]
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: Crash Dummie on February 06, 2013, 05:40:03 AM
I wish Christina Hendricks would suck mine.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: Shadow on February 06, 2013, 05:42:43 AM
There's a reason Firefly got cancelled (it sucked balls.)

Whoa whoa whoa now... let's not get too hasty. Fox simply fucked Firefly hardcore.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: Jigsaw on February 06, 2013, 05:46:21 AM
Indeed, I've never watched Firefly, but I know that it's almost considered a new age cult classic.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: L-Face on February 06, 2013, 05:47:37 AM
There's a reason Firefly got cancelled (it sucked balls.)

Whoa whoa whoa now... let's not get too hasty. Fox simply fucked Firefly hardcore.
It's an opinion, bud. I'm not a fan of Joss or anything he's done. Though, I won't argue that Fox has been shady in their dealings. After all, they did the same thing with a few other shows.

Anyways, back to JJ Abrams. Dude's pretty solid from what I heard. There was a guy with cancer that was a huge fan of Star Trek. Wanted to see JJ Abrams new film, but didn't have that much time left. JJ caught wind of it and showed the dude everything that was shot and edited together up until that point. Dude had a blast and was able to die happy.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: JasonzSon on February 06, 2013, 06:07:34 AM
I just think Abrams is one of those directors who is a fan of something, but doesn't really get why it was popular.  I know tons of Sci-Fi people who still refuse to consider his movie to be a Star Trek movie, and it has nothing to do with the continuity- it's because it just doesn't get the point of what makes people love the show.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: L-Face on February 06, 2013, 06:09:41 AM
Generally, fans of something think they can do it better than the people that do end up making things. The people bitching about what he did with Star Trek easily fall into that same category. He attempted to make a Star Trek film that was faithful to the source material, but could also be a leaping on point for people not familiar with it. Quite a few people I've heard talk about it have said he did a great job in accomplishing that.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: JasonzSon on February 06, 2013, 06:18:50 AM
We'll see how the sequel turns out then.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: L-Face on February 06, 2013, 06:20:11 AM
I'll probably wait a few years before seeing it, so more people will be able to judge how well it is before I do. Even then, if the movie has a Rifftrax commentary, it increases the chances of me seeing the film sooner than intended.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: DrumrbaxJ on February 07, 2013, 06:18:25 AM
What about his tv shows though?
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: L-Face on February 07, 2013, 06:19:58 AM
He had TV shows?  [*uhoh*]
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: Shadow on February 07, 2013, 06:22:28 AM
What about his tv shows though?

Only show I saw him involved in was Lost... I didn't stick around through that show much longer after they opened that hatch on the island. Got sick and tired of all the unanswered questions and getting strung along for no reason.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: DrumrbaxJ on February 07, 2013, 06:48:16 AM
Lost, Alias, Fringe, Alcatraz, Person Of Interest and Revolution.

His shows have a habit of throwing something amazing at us at the beginning, only to lose their way and become shithouse towards the end.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: L-Face on February 07, 2013, 06:51:20 AM
Honestly had no idea he was affiliated with any of those shows. Had I know, I probably would have at least watched an episode of them. Huh, learn something new every day.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: DrumrbaxJ on February 07, 2013, 06:56:05 AM
Stop at the end of the second last season of Fringe. It's "good" up until then.
I may go back and rewatch Alias. It has been a decade, I think.
Don't bother with Revolution. I want that time back.
Person Of Interest = I have no idea.
Alcatraz has promise. Give it a go.
Lost. Ugh.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: Shadow on February 07, 2013, 07:06:29 AM
Stop at the end of the second last season of Fringe. It's "good" up until then.

Fringe was one that I had always thought seemed like it might be interesting to watch, just never getting around to it. Shame it dipped so soon, I guess.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: Reign in Blood on February 07, 2013, 12:09:57 PM
There's a reason Firefly got cancelled (it sucked balls.)

Whoa whoa whoa now... let's not get too hasty. Fox simply fucked Firefly hardcore.
It's an opinion, bud. I'm not a fan of Joss or anything he's done. Though, I won't argue that Fox has been shady in their dealings. After all, they did the same thing with a few other shows.

I hated Joss' Buffy and Angel shit, but I thought what he did with Firefly was ace.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: DrumrbaxJ on February 07, 2013, 03:30:14 PM
Buffy and Angel are not shit. Let's get that straight.
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: Chucky on February 07, 2013, 06:59:14 PM
Buffy and Angel are not shit. Let's get that straight.

Angel feat. David BoringAss
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: DrumrbaxJ on February 08, 2013, 05:20:13 AM
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Look at this cheeky motherfucker. Spike is the best thing about the "Buffyverse".
Title: Re: Upcoming JJ Abrams Films
Post by: JasonzSon on May 21, 2013, 02:45:01 PM
Spike is a pansy.

Just watched Star Trek yesterday.  Came out better than I expected, and better than the first.  Sherlock Holmes plays a good evil Neo as he fights Sylar.  8.5/10.